Talk:Jihad

The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Jihad article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: Index, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14: 90 days

Military history: Technology

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military science, technology, and theory task force

Sociology Top‑importance

	Society portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sociology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SociologyWikipedia:WikiProject SociologyTemplate:WikiProject Sociologysociology articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Religion Top‑importance

	Religion portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Religion, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles on Religion-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.ReligionWikipedia:WikiProject ReligionTemplate:WikiProject ReligionReligion articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Islam: Islam and Controversy Top‑importance

	Islam portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Islam, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Islam-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IslamWikipedia:WikiProject IslamTemplate:WikiProject IslamIslam-related articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Islam and Controversy task force.

Middle Ages: Crusades High‑importance

	Middle Ages portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Middle Ages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Middle Ages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Middle AgesWikipedia:WikiProject Middle AgesTemplate:WikiProject Middle AgesMiddle Ages articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Crusades task force.

Theology Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Theology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Theology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TheologyWikipedia:WikiProject TheologyTemplate:WikiProject TheologyTheology articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Law Low‑importance

	Law portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it.LawWikipedia:WikiProject LawTemplate:WikiProject Lawlaw articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
February 17, 2008	Peer review	Reviewed

Alternative English Spellings of Jihad

I have found at least one and possibly two alternative English spellings to the word Jihad. The first is Jehad, evidenced by Encyclopedia Brittanica^[1]. The second is the Jihath, evidenced here on a Vimeo Video^[2] (warning graphic only sourced but not linked for this reason) and a PDF document that appears to go into detail about Paramilitary Groups in the area - I think that Sri Lanka has to work with in order to maintain control over the country. One of the groups is the Jihath Group and it appears to be a Jihadist group. The PDF is the fourth chapter in a work and is called "Partners in crime: SLAFs and Paramilitaries"^[3]. I think this may be a transliteration issue because it might be that in some transliterations the "d" is replaced with a "th". Possibly because it is transliterated from a Desi background rather than an Arab background. I tried asking/looking around but couldn't get an answer. If anyone knows about Desi transliteration to English for Arabic please advise on if the word "Jihath" is actually the word "Jihad". I think its important because alternative spellings included are not dictionary styles in the sense that WikiPolicy wants to avoid; adding alternative spellings help reader understand what it is they are reading when they see alternative spellings elsewhere.

References

Perceptions on jihad in lede

Why is the western perception on jihad validated here, rather than challenged?

"Most Western writers consider external jihad to have primacy over inner jihad in the Islamic tradition, while much of contemporary Muslim opinion favors the opposite view. The analysis of a large survey from 2002 reveals considerable nuance in the conceptions of jihad held by Muslims around the world."

Alexanderkowal (talk) 10:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2024

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Please add this to the 3rd paragraph of the lead and wherever else in the body: It is a sin to not send an army of Muslims to terrorise the Kuffar, once or twice a year until only Muslims or those who submit to Islam remain, in offensive jihad. Expelling Kuffar from Muslim lands is defensive jihad.^[1] Kuffaar (talk) 06:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not due for the lede, but it can go in the body Kowal2701 (talk) 17:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. PianoDan (talk) 17:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kowal2701: in the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Divisions_of_the_world_in_Islam?searchToken=99kelod8w0homdty1augcfpcs#Removal_of_sourced_content it can be seen that The Cheesedealer has struck out his statement, so please revert your last edit here (but remove the quotation marks)!-Ganeemath (talk) 16:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can make that sentence, In his book, "DEFENSE OF THE MUSLIM LANDS The first Obligation After Iman", he mentions, based on his interpretation of the hadith, that it is a sin to not send an army of Muslims to terrorise the Kuffar, once or twice a year until only Muslims or those who submit to Islam remain, in offensive jihad; expelling Kuffar from Muslim lands is defensive jihad.^[1]-Ganeemath (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Azzam, Abdullah. DEFENSE OF THE MUSLIM LANDS The first Obligation After Iman. Islamic Books. p. 1. Retrieved 8 July 2024. Cite error: The named reference "n462" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

God

Kowal2701, this revert is unnecessary. God can mean any God, but the God in Islam is different. Please self revert your last edit.-Ganeemath (talk) 17:02, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muslims reject all Gods other than Allah!-Ganeemath (talk) 17:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need in an article about an Islamic concept to specify that God is the god in Islam Kowal2701 (talk) 17:58, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, it was already linked to God in Islam. – IntGrah (talk) 18:46, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two separate articles for Arabic Term and Islamic Concept. Misleading, Non-Standard Translatory Description used

Wikipedia’s introductions aren’t translatory but explanatory. The article mixes Arabic translation with Islamic concept. Two separate articles are requested. In sharp contrast, Mein Kampf’s article isn’t dominated by literal translation meaning “my struggle”. 129.137.96.13 (talk) 19:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.britannica.com/topic/jihad

[2] ttps://vimeo.com/122172604

[3] ttps://www.tamilnet.com/img/publish/2011/12/Chapter_4_Partners_in_Crime.pdf

[n462-4] Azzam, Abdullah. DEFENSE OF THE MUSLIM LANDS The first Obligation After Iman. Islamic Books. p. 1. Retrieved 8 July 2024. Cite error: The named reference "n462" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

[1]

[2]

[3]

[1]