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self-inflicted
[edit]Alright, we'll talk about that then. Lord knows, that's an easy one to knock out of the park. Been looking forward to using the "Me and Jim aren't the brightest, but we can count to three" quote. But, I'm going to go have a couple beers first and mellow out. Best not to edit when irritated.
- Sorry I got short-tempered earlier. Having a bad day, so retreated to cool off a bit. Anyways, I wrote up what I know about the "self-inflicted" thing. Wolfman 06:54, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
O'Neill repeat
[edit]In your comment you said: O'Neill "not involved" already clear from earlier in article; why repeat, except to imply "he doesn't know anything about it"?
Relax, Bruce. The earlier reference to O'Neill is actually the more recent one, and obviously the one you removed hadn't been edited out at the same time. This is more a case of edits not catching up to each other rather than deliberate spin. Good catch, though. -khaosworks 15:21, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Well it's not spin. But it's also not edits failing to catch up. Yeah, it is mentioned much farther up in the article that O'Neill's service didn't overlap Kerry's. But that's not really sufficient for two reasons. (a) It presumes the reader has examined every bit of the article. We have a TOC precisely so readers can jump to interesting parts (b) Readers have finite ability to recall detail after that much intervening text. -- Now, I'm not trying to spin it. But I think it important that it somehow be noted that O'Neill's is not 1st-hand testimony. It would be fine, for example, if you want to mention that is the characterization from the book (I'm not sure it is btw, I think it came from the talk shows). I already changed it to 'not involved' rather than 'not a witness' to try to make it neutral. But, the fact that his description is not first hand is an important fact and a neutral one; it really needs to be mentioned. What neutral way would you suggest? Wolfman 16:04, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I misread then. But let's deal with whether we can phrase it in a neutral way. Where does O'Neill make this charge? If it's in the book perhaps we can attribute it to the book or SBVT rather than O'Neill, which dampens the implication that it is from first-hand knowledge. -khaosworks 18:17, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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