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non-free rationale and ability to use copyright photos appropriately

I want to ask a question if it is alright with you. So how do I get a photo to be implemented into a non-free content rationale and copyright free? I read the article on how to do it in the templates but it is still very confusing. And with the templates like how do I use them and when? Thanks Gymrat16 (talk) 17:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gymrat16, the question is a bit vague. Could you please elaborate on what the image is and which article it will be used in? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 17:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:United Airlines Logo2010present.png or File:United-Airlines-Logo.png

I was only going to use one of these in the History of United Airlines article near the brand history section Gymrat16 (talk) 18:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the current logo is File:United Airlines Logo.svg and is already being used on the United Airlines and United Airlines Holdings pages. If you want to use it on the History of United Airlines page, you must first add the Non-free media information and use rationale to File:United Airlines Logo.svg.

To do this:

Go to File:United Airlines Logo.svg > Edit > Insert > Template > Select Logo fur (template name).
Insert it above the "Licensing" heading.
Fill in the required fields. Some of the needed information can be copied from the previously used rationale on the same file page, while the rest should be according to how you intend to use the logo.

Once this is done, you will be able to use the logo in the article mentioned in your rationale and the bot will not remove it. I believe the same rationale applies if you upload their older logo as well. My personal advice would be to avoid including the logos in the history article unless there is critical commentary about them.

Note that different images have different usages and the fair use rationale must align with the specific guidelines for each case. Anyone more familiar with this process, feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:15, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ok i will look into it when i get a chance too. Thanks for the input and I look forward to continuing my work with you all to make wikipedia the best place it can be Gymrat16 (talk) 00:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gymrat16: This seems to be quite similar to question you asked at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions/Archive/2024/September#United airlines globe logo 2010-present day. The answer given above also seems to be similar to the one given for your earlier question. You might want to discuss this at Talk:History of United Airlines to see whether there's a need to add the current logo because there are several images of the new logo shown in photos of planes that might be sufficient. Non-free use isn't automatic and given the current logo is currently already being used twice, the photos in History of United Airlines#Brand history might be sufficient for Wikipedia's purpose to using the file yet again per WP:FREER. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it isn't necessarily being used twice but ok and if that is what is required then i suppose it is worth a try Gymrat16 (talk) 00:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use for a demolished building that is not the main subject?

Would I be able to upload a non-free image [1] in a list of works by an architect? The item in question is not the main subject. I am not completely sure if it would meet NFCC#8. The article in question is John Farrell (architect). Traumnovelle (talk) 23:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You'd need to have sourced commentary as to why it is a representative or key example of the architect's work, and if its meant to be representative, you should be sure that there are no free images of the other buildings they designed that are not still standing and where a free image could be taken (keeping in mind freedom of paranoma for the country of interest). Masem (t) 23:33, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll clarify, I wish to include it into the list of his works: John_Farrell_(architect)#List_of_buildings, would that be appropriate or fail NFCC#8? Traumnovelle (talk) 23:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If its just going to go into that list/table, without any added commentary, then no, we don't allow the use of non-free that way (see: WP:NFLISTS). Masem (t) 23:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't say it is forbidden, just quite strict and limited. I won't upload it regardless. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't say forbidden. In practice, it is forbidden. The only examples we have on the project that have been allowed in lists/tables are currency notes. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"WPT:NFCC" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect WPT:NFCC has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 4 § WPT:NFCC until a consensus is reached. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:49, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NFLISTS and license plate articles

I'm pretty sure might have been discussed before, but I figured it would be good to hear what others think about the non-free use of individual entries in articles like Vehicle registration plates of Nebraska. For reference, I broached the point with the uploader at User talk:QuickWittedHare#Vehicle registration plates of Nebraska but then sort of forgot about it. I was only reminded about today when the article popped up on my watchlist again. Most of the non-free images being used were uploaded as replacements for files deleted from Commons. That's not an argument in favor of their non-free use, but it just shows that they were uploaded in good faith. Is there anyway this kind of usage could be treated along the lines of national currency list articles. I'm not a big fan of those per se, but over time they seem to have become (a bit grudgingly perhaps) accepted for what they are. -- Marchjuly (talk) 20:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spoken word non-free audio files

Most of my experience when it comes to non-free content has been with respect to images. I understand that policy also allows non-free audio files, but I mostly see them used in music related articles. I'm not sure how policy treats non-free spoken word audio files like File:The voice of Ryan Wesley Routh, the alleged attempted assassin of Donald Trump, 2022.ogg.

It seems as if a non-free audio file of an interview would fail WP:FREER because a transcript of the interview could either be cited or quotes of what was said during the interview could be added and cited. Moreover, if there are no WP:COPYLINK issues, a link to the audio/video of the interview could be added to "External links" section.

It also seems unnecessary per WP:NFCC#8 to simply hear someone's voice just for that reason alone unless their voice was perhaps the subject of critical commentary in reliable sources due to some unique characteristic.

There is also the issue of length and WP:NFCC#3. WP:NFC#Audio clips states clips might be used, but it's not clear how long a "clip" is supposed to be. Is it 5%, 10%, 20% or some other percent of the total length of full audio file. Is there WP:IMAGERES guidance provided for audio files. The Routh audio file mentioned above is 1:45 long and comes from a 10 minute long YouTube video; so, that's about 20% of the total video (I guess). -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]