Talk:Roberta Williams

Source

• https://web.archive.org/web/20010217010515/http://www.womengamers.com:80/interviews/roberta.html
• https://web.archive.org/web/20010210042452/http://adventurecollective.com/articles/interview-robertawilliams.htm

Photo op

As long as coronavirus doesn't ruin it, with Roberta being honored at GDC this next month, and GDC publishing all their photos for free use, we should finally have a good photo for her. This is be around March 18th. --Masem (t) 18:20, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Notes on copyedit

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• "with husband and game developer Ken Williams" this phrasing can mislead readers into thinking that her husband and Williams were different people
• There's heavy citation of the self-published book Not All Fairy Tales Have Happy Endings: The Rise and Fall of Sierra On-Line. which is unlikely to be considered a high-quality reliable source at FAC
• May 1980 issue of MICRO it would help to provide a link or at least some explanation
• color graphics and dithering
• "had to layoff the majority of their team" confusing, since you never mention them hiring a team
• "The series was also known for Williams' unique style of storytelling, as well its advancements in graphics and technology." This sentence really does not carry any information unless you elaborate on how Williams' style differed from other games at the time. You already mention technological breakthroughs earlier
• "She would recall that the female protagonist likely increased the audience for the series, a creative decision that she seeded by introducing Rosella in the previous game." I removed this because you don't otherwise mention the previous intallment and because it matters more whether this belief is correct (the next sentence indicates it was) rather than whether Williams believed it.
• "a gender dynamic that has been credited to Williams' voice as a female author" I removed this but if it's added back it should say who credits it per MOS:AWW (t · c) buidhe 04:54, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
• "The game was critically acclaimed, with Computer Gaming World remembering it among their greatest games of all time." does the source support the first part of this sentence? You could just cut it if it's only CGW's opinion.
• "Sierra became a publicly traded company, and was generating one-hundred million dollars per year in revenue"
• "lent her characters and concepts" vague and confusing: did she design this game or only work on it?
• "it was recognized by several publications as one of the best adventure games"
• layoffs under CUC: it would be more helpful to state how many people or what percent were laid off rather than use a vague term like "severe" (t · c) buidhe 05:08, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for the changes! I made a few more to fix some of the issues you identified. Some of this stuff will definitely resurface if and when I nominate it for a featured article. I'm pretty sure the Ken Williams book will be considered reliable for statements from the subjects themselves, as a self-published source. But I'll tag User:Indrian just in case they have any perspective to add. Thanks again. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:29, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• Not All Fairy Tales Have Happy Endings: The Rise and Fall of Sierra On-Line is an autobiography by Ken Williams, husband of the subject as well as her collaborator on several projects and co-founder of the company the work was done for. The subject also contributed her recollections to the book, which is acknowledged in its text. The book is therefore permissible as a self-published source specifically for the first-hand material on their lives and for Ken's knowledge of the history of the company and its products. Indrian (talk) 15:58, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for checking in. This might come up again if it goes to FA eventually so we can revisit it then, if need be. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:32, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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First photo in Early life and career section should be of subject

Focusing on her husband feels sexist and obscures her own achievements 2601:41:4301:8C80:50D9:E7D0:7E5:A709 (talk) 00:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Newer sources

Just making a few notes on sources that have surfaced since her return to game development

List of references from early 2024
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Shooterwalker (talk) 16:42, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Maniac Mansion

Hi, I think the sentence about KQIV being an influence on Maniac Mansion should be changed as the article was referring to the original KQ. I think the updater must have misread as the paragraph above the one with this reference was about KQIV... easily done. KQIV could not have influenced Maniac Mansion as MM came out first. 1.126.105.83 (talk) 09:58, 27 July 2024 (UTC)