Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Anselm's Abbey School
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St. Anselm's Abbey School was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to keep the article.
Non-notable, and contains almost no information. Jayjg 18:47, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, or possibly begin an article titled Education in Washington, DC, and merge in. —siroχo 20:18, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a notable school. The first shot at the article was lame. My additions, while still fairly lame, at least rise to being a sufficient start, imo. Chrisvls 21:39, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Keep in present form. Chrisvls's current article makes a reasonable case for the school's being notable, distinct from other schools, and of interest as "typically thought of as a school for the sons of officials and diplomats." BEEFSTEW points A, B, D, H, I, J for a score of 6/10. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 23:37, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- K Interesting curriculum. Sone si Latine loqueris. Chris 00:53, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Keep and
banwarn Jayjg for trolling. anthony 警告 01:02, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC) - Keep. Not a bad article; it's interesting to find one's high school on the internet.
- Unsigned votes are not counted. --Improv 16:43, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Can I retroactively sign it? If so, I do so. --Colonel E 22:34, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Yo, Colonel E -- if you are an alum, could you please add other notable alums and other tidbits to expand this? Do it for ol' St. Anslems! Chris vLS 06:44, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Note that user has 4 edits, one of which is this one. --Improv 19:20, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Therefore, my opinion is worth that much less? I know I'm new, but to dismiss it out of hand like that... --Colonel E 22:12, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, since the article establishes notability. (In its original form, it would have been quite reasonable, in my opinion, to delete it.) This is getting at my idea of what a school article worth keeping should look like. -[[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 03:23, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, and ban Anthony for making unwarranted personal attacks. The first version was deletable. The rewrite establishes notability and explains why this school is notable as a school (instead of being notable for just being a school). Geogre 05:09, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Also ban Geogre for making unwarranted personal attacks. The school is obviously notable and Jayjg claiming otherwise is obviously trolling. anthony 警告 13:34, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Look at the original article, and explain how that description showed it was "notable". Jayjg 22:50, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- A policy disagreement is not trolling. Please try to play nice on Wikipedia and not see people on the other side of disagreements as being malicious. --Improv 16:43, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- When you came in and said that Jayjg should be banned for trolling for listing the page on VfD, you were making an unwarranted (as has been demonstrated repeatedly, the nominated draft of this article was very proper to delete) personal attack (referring to someone simply making listings on VfD as trolls). Geogre 18:14, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Nominating a clearly notable school for VFD is not proper. It is trolling. anthony 警告 19:03, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Explain how the original one sentence description indicated to anyone that it was "clearly notable". Jayjg 19:05, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- You marked it for deletion 12 minutes after it was created and without doing any research whatsoever. What do you expect? anthony 警告 22:31, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I marked it for deletion because it was created by an anonymous IP who had vandalized half a dozen articles. Why would I expect, based on that history and the description in the article, that the school was in any way notable? It's not my duty to research the nonsense articles of every anon vandal who comes along, but it is my duty to list them for deletion. Also, please note the many comments of other editors who have stated that it was quite reasonable to list it for deletion, and some who insist even now it should be deleted. Finally, please review Wikipedia:Assume good faith and Wikipedia:Civility in regards to your accusation of "trolling". Jayjg 00:04, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I think you've got your duties quite mixed up. We're supposed to be improving Wikipedia, not destroying it. anthony 警告 00:30, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Exactly. And ignoring Wikipedia:Assume good faith and Wikipedia:Civility, or making "provocative edits" suggesting that editors who put one-line nonsense articles up for VfD should be banned for "trolling", is destroying Wikipedia. Jayjg 17:52, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- This exchange makes me think we need a new policy, Wikipedia:Let it be or Wikipedia: Let sleeping dogs lie or Wikipedia:Simmer down. It would say: "If you are confident that a reasonable third party could read the exchange and understand your side, then let it be. No need to keep going back and forth if the point has been made." Good intentions all around, the rhetoric is just a bit too hot. Let's all hit Random page and move on. Chris vLS 19:24, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I marked it for deletion because it was created by an anonymous IP who had vandalized half a dozen articles. Why would I expect, based on that history and the description in the article, that the school was in any way notable? It's not my duty to research the nonsense articles of every anon vandal who comes along, but it is my duty to list them for deletion. Also, please note the many comments of other editors who have stated that it was quite reasonable to list it for deletion, and some who insist even now it should be deleted. Finally, please review Wikipedia:Assume good faith and Wikipedia:Civility in regards to your accusation of "trolling". Jayjg 00:04, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- You marked it for deletion 12 minutes after it was created and without doing any research whatsoever. What do you expect? anthony 警告 22:31, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Explain how the original one sentence description indicated to anyone that it was "clearly notable". Jayjg 19:05, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Nominating a clearly notable school for VFD is not proper. It is trolling. anthony 警告 19:03, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Also ban Geogre for making unwarranted personal attacks. The school is obviously notable and Jayjg claiming otherwise is obviously trolling. anthony 警告 13:34, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Keep great new article. Jayjg was absolutely justified in posting the original entry. IMO, that qualifies as helping and not trolling. Total original content: A Benedictine school on south Dakota Avenue in Northeast Washington D.C. - Lucky 6.9 07:00, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Jayjg was completely justified in nominating the original version. This version is much improved, and the data should be kept in some form, and perhaps contains enough to remain a separate article rather than merge into a more comprehensive Education in Washington D.C. article. Average Earthman 10:21, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Schools have a very high bar to meet to be notable. This one doesn't make it. --Improv 16:43, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- ... you say, as if every school teaches Latin as part of its mainstream curriculum these days ... Chris 00:56, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I disagree, it makes it in my book. [[User:Radman1|RaD Man (talk)]] 09:34, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. This school is not notable. -- WOT 19:28, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. This school is not notable. Teaching latin is nothing. 612 results on Google is not enough.--Etaonish 03:42, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)
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