Talk:Shoebill
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Zelda reference
[edit]I have to admit I fail to see why a TikTok meme about the species is more notable than a videogame that has sold upwards of 3.5 million copies to the point of keeping the former and deleting the latter. I'm rusty at Wikipedia and I can try to find a reference, but shoebills are very obviously the inspiration for the Loftwings. It may be a generational thing, but I assure you that Skyward Sword is where a lot of Zelda fans first learned about the species. It's like how a lot of people would never never heard of echidnas if it wasn't for the Sonic the Hedgehog. SparkyLurkdragon (talk) 03:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Because more people have seen the TikTok videos of scary shoebills than they have of the Loftwings in Skyward Sword. That, and you'll need a WP:SOURCE that supports the claim that the Loftwings were inspired by shoebills, otherwise, it's original research or synthesis. Mr Fink (talk) 03:27, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Fair. Here's a source, straight from the Zelda art book Hyrule Historia, archived at Archive.org.
- And, again, if a TikTok meme is relevant, so is a videogame in a really popular franchise. I don't even like ''Skyward Sword'' that much, but it is where I first heard about the species, and I'm not alone. SparkyLurkdragon (talk) 06:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- We're not saying TikTok is more notable than Zelda - we're saying a fully qualified reference is required. You still haven't provided one. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- So, let me get this straight.
- An art book with Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma himself overseeing edits which specifically says "Loftwings were modelled after shoebills" in black-and-white, is not enough to qualify as a reliable source/not original research? Then what would be? SparkyLurkdragon (talk) 14:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- I found through Google Scholar a 2014 paper in the journal Scientia Traductionis about video game localizations that mentions the design influence (
la forma del pico del ave esté inspirada en el picozapato (Shoebill en inglés, balaeniceps rex en latín)
). Nintendo Blast pretty much repeats (in Portugese) what The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Historia says; I didn't find anything about Blast on the video game sources guidelines. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:34, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I found through Google Scholar a 2014 paper in the journal Scientia Traductionis about video game localizations that mentions the design influence (
- We're not saying TikTok is more notable than Zelda - we're saying a fully qualified reference is required. You still haven't provided one. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Flaps
[edit]150 flaps per minute? 217.8.12.201 (talk) 22:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Context please. Is this in the article or are you proposing a change? Got a source? –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)