Talk:Binary fission

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It doesn't seem quite accurate that binary fission is restricted to prokaryotes. For instance different species of yeast reproduce by binary fission or by budding (see the wiki article on yeast). There is certainly a distinction to be made between cell division and reproduction but since this is an article about binary fission in general, it probably should not be restricted to prokaryotes. For instance, the animation that was removed would be perfectly acceptable if it was made clear that it showed eukaryotic binary fission. If previous editors have any comments, I'd love to hear them before starting to make changes.

Blindrhino (talk) 23:42, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

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"In biology, binary fission is the asexual reproductive process used by prokaryotes."

What is binary fission in things other than biology?

See Wikipedia:Reference desk. -- Cyan 02:19, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be merged with mitosis? Mdmcginn 17:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I think it should be! Troop350 17:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't, because Eukaryotes and prokaryotes devide differently. I think that Mitosis and Fission should be two seperate articles.

I agree. Mitosis is quite different. --agr 22:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is very different

Someone needs to clean all of the eukaryotes out of this article

Binary fission is a process of cell-division and reproduction used by prokaryotes, organisms that lack a nucleus. The processes used by eukaryotes are mitosis and cytokinesis. Past editors of this article have apparently confused binary fission with cytokinesis. I've made a small start, and I'll probably come back to this, but the distinction needs to be clearly drawn so people don't add back all this stuff about protozoans and sea anemones undergoing binary fission. --arkuat (talk) 09:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I've done a little bit of cleaning up, but now have run into the lovely but incorrect animation at Binary fission#Process. It's simple and well-intentioned and effective and I hate to remove it, but it's wrong: the chromosome depicted is a eukaryotic chromosome, not the simpler circular DNA loop of the prokaryote, which is what you expect to see participating in binary fission. Creating or even editing animations would be a new skill-set for me, so I'm posting this here while I chew over whether or not I ought to unlink this lovely but misleading animation. --arkuat (talk) 06:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

What is really frustrating about [1] is that it is correct, simple, and informative in every detail but one: the shape of the prokaryotic chromosome, the nucleoid. If I hadn't just needed to hose this article down for any confusion of eukaryotic mitosis/cytokinesis with prokaryotic binary fission, I wouldn't be so sensitive to the point. Rather than that X-shaped eukaryotic thing, it needs to show a circular double-helix of DNA unwinding into two single-helix circles of DNA. Not at any great level of detail, just two circles separating from one another would be a great improvement. I love how the animator has correctly shown the attachment of the divided nucleoids to the cell wall before final cell division. That part is right, and please keep it! --arkuat (talk) 06:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Someone just emailed me about this image and mistake, and I uploaded a slight reworking. Feel free to hunt me down if I neglect to check the talk pages as often as I would like to. Zab (talk) 10:21, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Removed confusing text: might be useful elsewhere

Types of binary fission

Binary fission is mainly of three types with regard to the plane of division:

1. Irregular binary fission: Occurs in amoebae. The plane of division of cytoplasm varies but is always at right angles to the elongated dividing nucleus.
2. Longitudinal binary fission: Occurs in flagellates such as Euglena. The cytoplasm splits lengthwise, from forward to backward, forming two similar daughter individuals.
3. Transverse binary fission: Occurs in ciliates such as paramecium. The cytoplasm divides transversely between two sets of nuclei, forming two dissimilar individuals. This is called bacterial fission.

This is interesting and possibly truthy, but has to do with eukaryotes and not with the sort of organisms or organelles that reproduce via binary fission.

another:

Bacterial DNA has a relatively high mutation rate. This rapid rate of genetic change is what makes bacteria capable of developing resistance to antibiotics and helps them exploit invasion into a wide range of environments.

This is also interesting and true, but doesn't really belong in an article about binary fission. --arkuat (talk) 10:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Illustration

The illustration at the head of the article is okay, but is frustrating in a way similar to the animation discussed above. The lead illustration confusingly mentions cytokinesis, a term which is usually restricted to eukaryotic cell division, and not ordinarily used of prokaryotes. --arkuat (talk) 08:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Binary Fission!

Hello isn't binary fission just a form of asexual reproduction by which some single celled organisms reproduce. The genetic material is copied, and one cell divides into two individual cells that are each a copy of the original cell. Like Prokaryotes as bacteria reproduce by binary fission. I mean I am only 12, but that is what I was thought, and you guys are probably 4 * smarter than me but that's what I thought.

dont think like that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.153.131.38 (talk) 17:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Binary fission is just a form of asexual reproduction. Hence, I am taking initiative and will be removing this page and redirecting traffic to fission (biology).Thompsma (talk) 21:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Binary fission/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I'm a little mystified by a link on a Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology article-tag leading me to a new talk subpage, but I'm going to trust. I think I've just edited this article into a shape that is beyond Start class. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought I'd do more than just sign up for the project. --arkuat (talk) 07:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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