Talk:Microsleep

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Are you SURE this can't be expanded? --Sgeo | Talk 18:58, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

Sometimes when I rest my eyes when tired, especially when I'm lying down, external noise like the droning hum of my computer's fan is intermittently shut out for a split second (sometimes longer). Is this a microsleep? It only happens when I'm tired, but not necessarily when I have significant sleep debt. I can often be pretty alert during these periods, though of course not as much as if I were wide awake. In such periods I don't notice microsleeping when I'm not resting my eyes, but supposedly you normally can't notice it anyway... - furrykef (Talk at me) 17:26, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I agree, this happens to me too. I think this may be some different kind of sleep, but scientists may classify it in microsleep. taylorr 20:33, 06 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Orgasm-trigger microsleep

Anyone have info? 24.255.11.232 09:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, falling asleep right after sex... how depressing to your partner.

Probably narcolepsy Jclerman 11:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And not a microsleep but a "sleep-attack". Jclerman (talk) 10:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing movement while asleep?

Is it possible to automatically/subconsciously continue an activity while (micro)sleeping? I want to say yes, but I haven't been able to find a definite source for such a statement. As I understand it, sleepwalkers are capable of a number of tasks, so I don't think this would be out of the realm of possibility.

Out of personal experience, I once microslept during a mountain hike, probably as a result of exhaustion rather than sleep debt. Though I don't remember dozing off, I vividly recall waking up and realizing I had slept, all the while still walking along a dangerous trail with 30 kilos of equipment on my back. At the time I thought I had dozed off for 5 seconds, 10 at most, but according to the article, microsleeps can last "a fraction of a second," so maybe that's all it was.--92.104.130.4 (talk) 03:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What you describe is the automatic behavior frequently experienced by hypersomnolents.

Jclerman (talk) 10:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Been there, done that. In the summer of 1996 I drove an 18-wheeler with a co-driver. I couldn't sleep in the moving truck so I would start my shift ready to fall asleep. One incident, I was east-bound on I-76 in eastern Colorado. I was dead tired and desperate for a place to pull over and sleep over the wheel for a while, but there was no place to pull over legally. Then, I suddenly found myself carefully bringing the truck to a stop on the hard shoulder. I did not remember deciding to pull over or beginning to pull over, only the last few seconds as I came to a final stop. Another time I drove the around Milwaukee on the way from Chicago to Neenah. I was only conscious at the times I had to change freeways. All I saw was the occasional exit marker emerging from the gray (it was not foggy). I can joke about literally driving in my sleep now but it was not joke then. I quit driving team and went solo after that summer. Rsduhamel (talk) 21:53, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Losing time while driving doesn't have to be the result of microsleep. It is more likely the result of a conscious theta wave state. Some people can lose much larger gaps of time, without their driving, or other automatic behavior, being noticeably effected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.13.8.79 (talk) 02:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reference citation #3

The third reference citation in this article is a broken link. Perhaps someone with some time can dig through the website and see if the article changed URL's or is in a different section of the website? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.5.155.8 (talk) 06:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Microsleeping while driving

Seems like this article is mostly focused on microsleep while driving... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.162.148.199 (talk) 07:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, Jim Schwoebel (talk) 22:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You've done a lot of work, there! Hope you'll be sticking around. I've removed a lot of spaces (no space between punctuation and ref!) and a lot of duplicate wikilinks. I've uncapitalized words in your headers. You have a lot of redlinks, which shouldn't be there unless you are planning to write all(!) those articles soon. I changed Karolinka to Karolinska - assuming that is correct. You may be interested in checking whether you qualify to be included in "Did you know..." on the main page; there's a short time limit for that. Hordaland (talk) 03:38, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hordaland, thanks so much for the feedback and edits. I was not aware of all the formatting requirements for Wikipedia articles, but it definitely helps having someone who has been there to look over what I've done. I'm curious about being included in the "Did you know..." section (I assume you mean Wikipedia:Did you know on the main page). Jim Schwoebel (talk) 02:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's what I mean. I just glanced at the page you link, and I think the process has gotten more complicated since I last did it! You'd first need to check whether you expanded the article fivefold or not. Then find an especially interesting factoid in the article. Good luck. Hordaland (talk) 08:33, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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eyelid closed, demonstrating microsleep event according to eye-video test

I removed this image as unclear and unattractive. It has been replaced, so I won't remove it again without discussion. At first glance it's just a black blob. (A clearer image of closed eye(s) would be fine here.) I think it should be removed. Other opinions? Hordaland (talk) 02:08, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Preferable would be to use a higher-quality image with better lighting, but I think this image is fine for the article. especially with the new caption. CFCF (talk) 07:13, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chernobyl

The claim that the Chernobyl nuclear reactor accident is related to microsleep is unsubstanciated and sensational. It should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.151.179.9 (talk) 18:29, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I know that Dr. Charles Czeisler, whom I trust, has said that sleep deprivation was behind the Chernobyl disaster. I don't know if he has said "likely microsleep" or not. He has said the same about the Exxon Valdez oil spill and the Three Mile Island accident. --Hordaland (talk) 09:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I did two reports on Chernobyl back in school and this is the first time I've ever heard about microsleep being involved either. It was mostly because they were operating the reactor in a totally unsafe configuration, and perhaps under pressure from superiors. It was a disaster waiting to happen even without them being tired. 2605:A000:BFC0:33:C81:53C3:2918:4C5A (talk) 17:36, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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MS/MSs

FWIW, my personal opinion is that the abbreviations MS/MSs only serve to make the lead appear more jargony rather than less. These are not heavily used in the rest of the article at present. As a reader, I read "microsleeps" far more readily than "MSs". And it's not like I have any particular difficulty with acronyms or initialisms. When someone says "NASA", my brain goes "do you mean NASA or NAASA?" (National Association of Agri-Food Supervisory Agencies). Or when I hear "AI" my brain goes "do you mean artificial intelligence, artificial insemination, or avian influenza"? The abbreviations MS/MSs here, however, are ungainly to my eye, and better reserved for "multiple sclerosis" (good reason) or "manuscript" (weary ink-stained wretches). — MaxEnt 12:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Carbon Dioxide buildup in vehicle cabs can cause microsleep

CO2 buildup can happen very quickly in enclosed operator cabs, such as cars and heavy equipment cabs, causing hypercapnia. One of the earliest symptoms is fatigue, and if levels continue to build, sleep. The article should address excessive CO2 build up as a cause of microsleep while driving, as the driver or operator exhaling in a small enclosed space with recirculation on can cause levels to build quickly, particularly in older vehicles. We've all experienced drowsiness while driving and often opening the window for a brief period allows you to regain alertness. LynneP65 (talk) 15:24, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Section relating to drug use

Hey all, I was in process of creating an article called "Nodding off" but I figured that it would pretty much mean the same thing as this article. That being said, there doesn't seem to be much content relating to Microsleep as a result of drug use such as heroin, so I'd like to make a comment on here and say that "Nodding off" or "Nodding out" is basically the same thing as what is in this article, just that "Nodding off" and "Nodding out" are more often-than-not used as terms referring to Microsleep as a side effect of drugs. B3251 (talk) 21:21, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]