Talk:Square Deal

JP Morgan

TR's Square Deal dismantled J.P. Morgan's railroad monopoly.

Yes it did. That was the Northern Securities Company in 1904, which was owned by J.P. Morgan and James J. Hill. It also conjured the Northern Securities case in the Supreme Court. However, TR did not hate J.P. Morgan. The American Pageant states:

In one celebrated instance in 1907, Roosevelt even gave his personal blessing to J. P. Morgan’s plan to have U.S. Steel absorb the Tennessee Coal and Iron Company, without fear of antitrust reprisals. When Taft then launched a suit against U.S. Steel in 1911, the political reaction from TR was explosive.

Just some more information.Nonamer98 (talk) 14:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

1903/1904

is the square deal in 1903 or 1904? i have searched google and it says 1903. is this right? 66.215.211.119 03:15, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

The Square Deal was not a single policy. It reflected the Roosevelt Administration's policies concerning the middle class. The earliest incidence involving the Square Deal started in 1902, when he handled the coal mine controversy (see article).Nonamer98 (talk) 14:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Clean-up

I cleaned up the article a bit with a few things, including:

-A spelling error in one of the references (From Thed to The)

-The name of the bill that ended rebates from railroads (Elkins Act of 1903)

-Removal of unnecessary spaces.

More changes to come.Nonamer98 (talk) 14:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, someone replaced Roosevelt with Houlis. I'm restoring the article to its original form. Nonamer98 (talk) 14:31, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

The Square Deal Was More Of A Definition of Fairness Than An Idea With Four Principals

Square Deal's phrase definition means "honest and fair deal." That is basically what Theodore Roosevelt meant with the policy,; not that it was a policy deal that composed of four basic points.174.159.255.90 (talk) 14:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Origin of the Phrase 'Square Deal'

The article should include mention of the origin of the phrase "square deal," which, while an intuitive phrase, is given some nuance by TR's definition of it. Fitzador (talk) 07:21, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Lack of Neutrality

You have it stated that Teddy Roosevelt was a "liberal Republican". Why do you state this. Teddy Roosevelt never said he was a liberal Republican. While I consider Teddy Roosevelt a moderate Republican, many historians consider not only a conservative Republican but the most conservative Republican in US history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.195.157 (talk) 19:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, cite some sources and we'll go from there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.50.240 (talk) 00:07, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Thus, it aimed at helping middle class citizens and involved attacking plutocracy and bad trusts while at the same time protecting business from the most extreme demands of organized labor. This quote is plagiarized — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:248:1:1140:100A:AB51:9DF0:4414 (talk) 02:49, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Unclean & Unclear Introduction

We should consider reordering the introduction, since it seems a bit messy and unclear. The first sentence with the long quote seem out of place; I think that, instead of having the long quote first, the text explaining the goals of the Square Deal should be first instead. Then, the quote should follow for a summation of his stance on it. I think that it's just too ambiguous to start with a one-liner of "The Square Deal was President Theodore Roosevelt's domestic program" and immediately jumping to a quote on his stance. It is also Google rich-card unfriendly, since it doesn't give any info beyond the bill being a "domestic program".

I think this would be the best alternative:

The Square Deal was President Theodore Roosevelt's domestic program, which reflected his three major goals: conservation of natural resources, control of corporations, and consumer protection. These three demands are often referred to as the "three Cs" of Roosevelt's Square Deal. Thus, it aimed at helping middle class citizens and involved attacking plutocracy and bad trusts while at the same time protecting business from the most extreme demands of organized labor. He explained in 1901-1909:

When I say that I am for the square deal, I mean not merely that I stand for fair play under the present rules of the game, but that I stand for having those rules changed so as to work for a more substantial equality of opportunity and of reward for equally good service.

A progressive Republican, Roosevelt believed in government action to mitigate social evils, and as president he in 1908 denounced "the representatives of predatory wealth" as guilty of "all forms of iniquity from the oppression of wage workers to unfair and unwholesome methods of crushing competition, and to defrauding the public by stock-jobbing and the manipulation of securities."

During his second term, Roosevelt tried to extend his Square Deal further, but was blocked by conservative Republicans in Congress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxmmyron (talk • contribs) 02:47, 3 January 2020 (UTC)