Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tod H. Mikuriya, M.D.

Tod H. Mikuriya, M.D. was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to keep the article.

Vanity. His book is self-published. Rick K 04:39, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)

Keep and rewrite. Google turns up over 900 hits. He has apparently been published in medical journals, although nothing first-tier. I think he has had enough influence to at least warrant a small article. --Slowking Man 06:10, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)
Keep, just barely The Marijuana Medical Papers is very well-known and IMHO is notable. But this seems to be the only thing he's done that rises to encyclopedic level. If redirects to sections worked, I'd suggest a redirect to our article on Medical_marijuana#History which mentions him and his book. Details:

The Marijuana Medical Papers is well-known. It is still in print. The title and author of the current edition is "Marijuana Medical Handbook: A Guide to Therapeutic Use by Ed Rosenthal, Tod Mikuriya, Dale Gieringer", [ISBN 0932551165]. Amazon sales rank is 143,158. I recently suggested that one crude criterion for a book's notability is that the Amazon sales rank exceed 50% of the Wikipedia article count; this passes. Mikuriya and his book are mentioned in our article on Medical Marijuana and a very quick check of the history shows the mention has been in there at least since Nov. 2003 [1], i.e. it wasn't just added.

~~The article is similar to http://home.carolina.rr.com/bbsnews/drtod.htm but I do not believe it is a copyvio.~~ I think I've fixed that, anyway. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 12:21, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The article is way too much like a CV or Who's Who-style capsule biography.

From the standpoint of encyclopedic notability, I think his authorship of The Medical Marijuana Papers is the only really notable thing he's done to date. If you remove all the things that don't belong and rewrite to remove peacock words, promotion, and POV I end up with something like this:

Tod H. Mikuriya (b. 1933 Pennsylvania) is a psychiatrist who directed non-classified marijuana research for the National Institute of Mental Health Center for Narcotics and Drug Abuse Studies. His 1972 self-published book, Marijuana Medical Papers 1839-1972 became a landmark in the modern movement for the legalization of Medical marijuana. As of 2004 He continues in private psychiatric practice.

This is enough for an article, but just barely. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 11:37, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Seems odd that I couldn't find his exact birth date quickly... [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 11:37, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

What the heck, I'm doing the rewrite. There's a little more. He has his own website. The fact that it isn't mentioned in the article strongly suggests that who ever wrote it was not acting out of vanity or promotional motives—or was unusually restrained. He's written some not-very-good vaguely-leftish folk-song-like song lyrics! http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/songs95.htm I wonder if we can trust that site's attributions? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 11:37, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Actually, this guy seems very notable, at least in California. Seems to be a conspicuous and outspoken advocate of legalization of medical marijuana, who's approved marijuana for thousands of patients and was in a big legal flap last year and in danger of losing his license. I can't find out how the story turned out--Boston Globe subscribers are supposed to have links to the Globe archives but the service is currently down, and I don't know if it was notable enough for the Globe. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 12:21, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Keep, barely: I agree that he has web notice, but I also note that many of the web hits are marijuana sites repeating each other. However, as a mover and shaker in the movement, he is notable, and as a campaigner, he qualifies. If we are having protracted debates on folks whose notability is "organizing" 50 other people as anarchists and agreeing to keep socialist papers with circulations in the dozens, then being a mighty big wheel in the medical marijuana community qualifies as notable. I would like to see knowledgeable editors rewrite and clean somewhat, so listing on Clean Up would be no bad thing. Geogre 12:51, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Weak keep Cutler 14:02, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)

Keep. Spleeman 20:26, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

keep. Arevich 19:01, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like other '/delete' pages is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.