Talk:List of amphibious assault operations
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Incomplete list
[edit]Dave-
There is certainly no harm is this page. As The Great Helmsman said 'Let a Thousand Flowers Bloom,'
On the other hand, it is simply a subset of the Military Operations list. Do we need this one too?
At the least, this page should be linked to the other one. Is there an article on Alligator Warfare? Could you provide one as a header to this list? Are all these operations listed on the Military Operation list.
I have an entry for all these operations on my Mac and will add them to the Vast Database as the Muse strikes me.
- Should Axis and Allied assults be listed cronologically or should there be seperate lists under the Theatres? --Philip Baird Shearer 11:20, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
World War I
[edit]Would Gallipoli qualify as a WWI amphibious assault operation? I seem to recall there was also an amphibious landing planned in support of Third Battle of Ypres -- involved landing tanks on barges somewhere beyond Nieuport. I think they got as far as practicing to climb sea-walls in the tanks. I don't know if it had a codename. Geoff 07:01, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)
No, it did not have a codename. Trust me, I know. This page would make me get off my dead butt and make entries for all the names mentioned. Of course that would involve me snapping out of my lethargy. [[PaulinSaudi 11:49, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)]]
Amphibious assault operations
[edit]What is an "Amphibious assault"? A definitionis needed.
- Is it the crossing of a sea or the crossing of a river. If the latter how big does the river have to be?
- Does an unopposed landing count as an assault?
- etc --Philip Baird Shearer 11:20, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Philip,
- As with many Wikipedia articles, this one is nonsense.
- 'Amphibious warfare' seems to have been coined in the late 19th century without regard for Biology, which at the time I think classified Amphibian species to include the order Crocodilia. Careful reading of Churchill's The Great Amphibian would suggest that the military officers intended the warfare to be modelled on an apex predator rather than frogs and salamanders.
- Having said this, 'amphibious' demands a capability to self-propel in water and on land. As such, any landings carried out before the invention of the Landing Vehicle Trackeds were naval landings, and not 'amphibious assaults'. Given the very different doctrinal underpinnings, this type of mission/operation would require a separate list.
- It seems to me that crossing major rivers as part of military operations during the Second World War qualifies for an 'amphibious assault' because the doctrinal methods were not much different, e.g. Volga, Oder & Rhine.
- Naval landings were desireably unopposed. 'Amphibious assaults' during the Second World war, and since, are expected to be opposed.
- Even when not opposed, by the virtue of planinng and execution they follow methodology largely similar to the opposed assaults, so it seems to me still qualify for an 'assualt', requiring same resources and training.
- It would be good to expand existing list and creeate the List of naval landings which would include invasion of Egypt by the Hyksos, Trojan War, Battle of Marathon, expansion of the Greeks on Asia Minor, Carthage expansion and that of the Roman Empire, Scandinavian viking raids and the Normans, European colonialism and imperialism, and of course the similar processes in India and Asia.KlevaAstro (talk) 01:46, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
WikiPedia Templates
[edit]The only Wikipedia template for a nation is for Australia. Should there be templates for the national forces participating, or for the landing places, both, or none? Beyond that, the list itself is not in a table, and does not show the forces or landing places or even, in most cases, the date, just the war, and the names of the battles or landing places. I do not object to this list, but I am doubtful about its utility in its present form.
Any editor who decides to remove the Australia template, rather than add the long series of nations that might be added, please feel free to do so. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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