Talk:Chinpokomon

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How about adding a section about Kenny's death? This episode is also notable that Cartman actively defends Kenny (still paralyzed), saying: "Get off him, he's not dead yet", only to find that the rats had already eaten him from inside.81.21.45.44 21:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Please remove innappropiate SEX reference!

I believe that all of the "Americans have large penis should be removed from this article! I find it not only racist, but I am afraid that CHILDREN might be reading that and wishing they did not. It is very inappropite.

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The person who wrote the above statement is clearly oversensitive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.108.80 (talk) 16:09, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

68.114.8.203 21:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh please. Why don't you start demanding the censorship the other articles on Wikipedia like vagina and penis because they're "inappropriate"? Or how about removing the articles on nigger and shit because they're "bad words"? This is an online encyclopedia, with the purpose of making knowledge readily and freely available to all. Some content may deal with controversial material but it is presented in a manner to explain the topic in question. Nowhere is it stated that Wikipedia is a site dumbed down and optimized for children and fanatic moralists. Leave the parents to do their job -- monitoring what their children are doing on the internet -- instead of giving them an excuse for failing to do so by demanding censorship of an online encyclopedia. Ultra-moralist people like this are the reason why humanity was stuck in the dark ages for so long. 69.204.145.26 04:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Whoa, calm down IP 69! I believe he was referring to some sort of vandalism that was reverted a while back anyway. To the anon IP above who raised concerns about WP being partially unsuitable for minors, WP is not censored for the reason (as stated above) it would cut out a lot of information. If you'd like to keep your children from seeing certain things, perhaps a paper encyclopedia with the offending pages ripped out might suit better. Happy editing,xC | ☎ 04:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

The "Americans have huge penis" thing that 68.114.8.203 is referring to is a recurring device in this episode. It's used by the Japanese chinpokomon makers to distract the American people who catch on to their plans. The article is merely referencing it. Sorry if my response was a little charged, but it's upsetting to think of how restrained science, culture and knowledge is because of people more concerned about suppressing content for fear of defiling a child's virgin mind instead of addressing the real problem: parents not paying enough attention to their kids. 69.204.145.26 04:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem. For the record, I do agree with you - its not right to restrain people, or their choices. Its not a decision to be made by anyone else but the individual themselves. xC | ☎ 04:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Toy ad kids

Hey, just wonderin' about the LA kids at the latter half, any infos on them?--Conan-san 10:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

"chinpoko definition"

Despite common Western perception on the topic, Chinko on it's own is penis, and chinpoko specifically is a small one. I can't find the word in any online jp dictionaries, but I used to live in Japan, and my Japanese friends agree. Will add to this page with a verification link or a book reference as soon as I find one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bob Bob Bob (talk • contribs) 23:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC).

I hate to disagree, but chinpoko is a cute word for chinko (penis). It's a lot like wee-wee. It doesn't have much to do with size, but it is a Japanese kid's word for it. I'm editing the article a bit. struggle 20:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Possibly chinpoko + kōmon (anus)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.3.164.64 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC).

-ko suffix denotes diminuitiveness. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.122.63.142 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC).

chinko, chinpo, chinpoko, chinchin, and similar words have absolutely no sense of "diminutiveness." They are just colloquial (and somewhat childish) Japanese words for "penis," possibly related to Japanese tane (seed; semen), Ryukyuan tanī (penis), or Ainu ciyene or ciyehe (penis). They might also be related somehow to the Japanese word for "father," i.e. chichi. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.171.213.134 (talk) 03:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

Probably too late to add my two cents, but as the poster directly above points out, "Chinpo", "Chinko" and "Chinpoko" are all slang terms for the penis in Japanese. Ask a Japanese person. Or better yet, listen to the DVD commentary, Parker himself states that their translations of the word is "Penis monster"; even if their translation was technically wrong (Though I'm pretty sure it's not), that what they were going for. --Col.clawhammer (talk) 16:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

"Chinpoko" is more equivalent to the English word "wiener" which can be interpreted as small or below normal. Or possibly just a euphemism. C. Pineda (クリス) (talk) 04:16, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Even the online dictionary I used a month ago has changed its own defintion but here you go:

http://eow.alc.co.jp/%e3%81%a1%e3%82%93%e3%81%bd%e3%81%93/UTF-8/

Anyway, when I made the original edit to the article, the dictionary said it was close to "dick" or "cock" which are definately offensive. That also matches with my anecdotal experience. But whatever, "pee-pee" if you like. But as it stands, the article can be read to imply that South Park made up the word "chinpoko-mon" based on "chinchin" which if it is true, is so unusually coincidental to the fact that "chinpoko" actually is a word in Japanese that it mertis mention. What I think is likely is that the guys asked someone how to say dick in Japanese and were told "chinpoko" only later to site "chin chin" instead in the commentary. I'm *not* suggesting that my speculation should be included in the article, but the facts as they stand--namely chinpoko = slang for penis--I think should be included and people can make their own opinion based on that. Just because Trey Parker says something in a commentary doesn't make it absolutely true. Now, I thank you in advance for including this information in the article and adding whatever necessary citation to the link I provided above (if citing dictionaries is actually necessary on Wikipedia). --203.141.149.155 (talk) 04:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't have room in my life to obsess about this article, but it's relevant to note somewhere in the article that "chinpoko" or some variant of the Japanese word for "penis" was used to create the name of the episode and the toys for which it's named. WikiuserNI, you seem to be removing that specific piece of information whenever anyone tries to insert it. The only valid reason I could see for that would be that up until now, "Cultural References" might not have been the most appropriate section. Is that your reasoning, or do you have something else in mind? Snolygoster (talk) 03:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

There are other articles where interpretations from one language to another are entered, then redited by one user claiming superior knowledge of that language to other users. In such cases, the translations are removed. As such, it suffices to say that the writers believed they were making a play on a certain word in another language. WikiuserNI (talk) 11:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

If I were someone learning a new word in a foreign language, I would look that word up in a dictionary; one I trusted enough to make a proper "translation" rather than an "interpretation" from one language to another. Would a dictionary article explaining the term(s) in question not cut through the chaff of "I know better than you" that you're describing? If I were reading an article and read that "the writers believed they were making a play on a certain word", the first thing I'd want to know is what that word means in a language I understand. Snolygoster (talk) 15:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

You're not learning a proper new word, just what the writers thought sounded like a play on what they thought was a Japanese word. Maybe they heard something different, maybe they were misinformed. What about the other editors above us who can't agree on the meaning? WikiuserNI (talk) 21:15, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

There was a question about nuance, which I'm not even going to touch, but everyone agrees the basic English meaning of the word is "penis." The question is whether to cite the Japanese word as "chinpoko" "chin-chin," or some other variation. Also, as noted in a couple places, Trey Parker speaks at least some Japanese, so whether by coincidence, or by prior knowledge, or by phoning a Japanese friend, he's managed to use a word that Japanese mothers don't want their kids to say in public (I live in Japan and my Japanese girlfriend won't even say the name of the episode). I haven't heard the DVD commentary, but it apparently has Mr. Parker mentioning the word "chin-chin," even though it would seem to me that "chinpoko" would be closer to "chinpokomon;" and if that really were the word from which it's derived, it's highly unlikely that he'd end up with the word from which "chin-chin" itself is derived. I don't feel like putting any more energy into this, but I certainly don't think it would hurt the article to have the link to the Japanese dictionary entry for "chinpoko" I originally put in. Snolygoster (talk) 15:25, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

No offence, but that just sounds like working backwards from what Parker (may have) said to fit the definition you found. WikiuserNI (talk) 22:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

ah, sou desu ne.

Here you go:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/fans/bbs/viewtopic.php?p=305850 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bob Bob Bob (talk • contribs) 23:37, 6 August 2005 (UTC).

Link is broken. Where was it supposed to go? —Snolygoster (talk) 12:06, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

List of Chinpokomon

It seems like this would be a good addition to the article, although the episode refers to one (or two?) Chinpokomon as Lambtor AND Lambtron. It may be hard to get a comprehensive list. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.54.110.182 (talk • contribs) 05:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC).

Chu Chu Nezumi is another. (Which oddly enough looks nothing whatsoever like a mouse.) --70.24.207.57 16:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Lambtor was probably a mistake. Lambtron was listed more than once, so it's probably the correct one. There's Donkeytron (purple Donkey Kong), Furrycat (green Meowth), Roostor, it's evolved form Roostallion, Shoe (a penny loafer), Lambtron (Pikachu with lamb ears and a cannon for a hand), Chu Chu Nemzi, Pengin. I believe that's all of them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DeathWeed (talk • contribs) 07:38, 1 November 2006 (UTC).

With a few capitalization exchanges, your list is comprehensive, matching the list given on the South Park FAQ page here: http://www.southparkstudios.com/fans/faq/360604. It does not mention Lambtor, BTW. —Snolygoster (talk) 12:05, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Such a list would be trivia and would be best merged into the plot summary, as long as it doesn't push the plot section over a reasonable size. WikiuserNI (talk) 20:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Source Episode?

The snatches of the Chinpokomon cartoon appear for all the world to have been inspired by the Pokémon episode "A Friend in Deed" (rather fitting, as it is by a great margin the most flagrantly, diabolically commercial episode of the entire Pokémon series) but the respective airdates would seem to make this impossible. Hmmmnnn... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.24.207.57 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 11 September 2006 (UTC).

Try Bulbapedia's article on the Pokémon episode A Friend In Deed: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/A_Friend_In_Deed Pikachu125 01:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Rats

This part I edited: when it is discovered that the rats had laid their eggs inside Kenny's body and it bursts open with escaping rats, much to the amusement of the kids.

The rats LAYING eggs inside Kenny? I edited that part, rats are mammals and don't lay eggs. - Micrurus —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.230.15.150 (talk • contribs) 03:48, 22 January 2007 (UTC).

He's got you there mate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simpsons fan 66 (talk • contribs) 10:23, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The Japanese

The cultural reference "Suprisingly, throughout the course of the episode, the use of Japanese is extremely accurate, with few (if any) grammatical or vocabulary-related mistakes." is a bit wrong in my opinion, as Trey Parker is fluent in Japanese. So "not surprisingly", perhaps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.112.192.139 (talk) 21:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that Parker is fluent. In several of the episode commentaries he mentions that his Japanese is actually limited. Also, the commentary for this particular episode notes that they collaborated with a Japanese friend of theirs, so it's likely that their friend wrote or at least checked the Japanese parts of the script. --Col.clawhammer (talk) 19:18, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone provide a transaltion of what the kids are saying during the march through town?165.97.69.26 (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Not here. This page is to discuss how to improve the content of the article. It is not a chat forum. -- The Red Pen of Doom 22:14, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

It seems to me that adding translations would boost understanding of the episode and thus improve the the content of the article? At least thats the reason that i searched for this episode on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.140.84.121 (talk) 19:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

They are saying "Owatta Deikouku" which, in my understanding is "finished empire." Perhaps "fallen empire" is a better translation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.138.7 (talk) 18:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Stewardess

Is the woman who plays the stewardess Trey's wife?

• No, the live action woman is Saki Miata: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0583976/ Sarysa (talk) 06:41, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

I just watched this, and I'm incredibly curious...

How did the Japanese respond to this episode? How about Nintendo? --Luigifan (talk) 22:30, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Emperor Hirohoto

In the episode the Emperor of japan is named as Hirohito. Should it be noted somewhere in the article that when this episode was aired Hirohoto had already been dead for over ten years?137.186.98.134 (talk) 07:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

If a reliable source can be found that makes that analysis in the context of the episode which is the subject of this article, sure. -- The Red Pen of Doom 11:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

"intended"

"The name "Chinpokomon" was intended to be a parody of Pokémon" implies that in some way it actually wasn't. It wasn't intended to be a parody, it was a parody, so why did someone restore the "intended" bit saying it was "debatable"? 190.162.52.196 (talk) 20:19, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Nobody said it was "debatable", why ask when that wasn't in the article. WikiuserNI (talk) 15:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Correct spelling

The official South Park website has this episode spelled 'Chinpoko Mon' not 'Chinpokomon'

After reading the other talk topics, this appears to be another joke, as chinpoko means small penis in Japanese, which is a reoccurring joke within the episode.

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