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The article explains that "Bayerische Flugzeugwerke" literally [means] "Bavarian Aircraft Works", meaning "Bavarian Aircraft Factory". Isn't this explanation a bit of an overkill, as Works is used in English in the same way, e. g. Swindon Works? --KnightMove (talk) 06:11, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's what "Fleugzeugwerke" translates to. Are you suggesting we leave "Works" out of the translation because "anyone can see" that "Werke" obviously is the same as "works"? So we'd end up saying "Bayerische Flugzeugwerke means Bavarian Aircraft"? How else would you leave out the word "werke"? Flugzeugwerke = aircraft works. I don't see the problem. Even ignoring that, if it didn't say that, you'd have someone in the comments asking "doesn't "werke" mean "works/factory" in English? So why doesn't the translation include the word "works" in it?"AnnaGoFast (talk) 10:24, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The OP was stating that " ... . meaning "Bavarian Aircraft Factory" was unnecessary and that "Bayerische Flugzeugwerke" literally [means] "Bavarian Aircraft Works" in English was sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.173.127 (talk) 09:18, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
so after world war 2 the produced aircraft that were look like Bf-109 are Ha-1112 ex: Battle Of Britain it used repainted Ha-1112 because the produced aircraft of the time are Ha-1112 that probably cheaper than remaining 109 Wibu in 1945 (talk) 23:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
At the time that the Battle of Britain film was in production (1965-68), airworthy original Messerschmitt Bf109s were exceedingly rare. However, the Spanish Ha-1112Buchon, some of them built as late as 1958, had been well maintained by the Spanish Air Force, both in airworthy condition and in useful numbers.
Hence it wasn't just economics - it was the only way that something resembling a staffel of 109s could be made available for filming.
...the produced aircraft of the time are Ha-1112 that probably cheaper than remaining 109... The issue wasn't necessarily price. Recall all the Allied bombing raids aimed at German aircraft factories and logistical stockpiles. Recall that the Allies were preparing for a grueling multi-year invasion of Japan that was cut short by the A-bomb. The postwar result was that spares for German aircraft were rare while spares for Allied (particularly American) aircraft were abundant. Piston fighters were becoming obsolete anyway. If you're a relatively cash-strapped country, why struggle to keep a Bf-109 airworthy when you can cozy up to the U.S. or U.K. and get P-51s or Sea Furies with truckloads of spares? Carguychris (talk) 14:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the significant improvement of the performance of the Bf 109 over its career, wouldn't it be relevant to include specifications for a few models besides just the G series? There is a whole page about Bf 109 variants but it gives nothing about speed, only power, range, armament, etc. The only performance stats given on either page is for the G-6. How much faster is a G-6 than an E-4? I came here specifically because I was curious to find that out and it seems strange that it simply isn't mentioned anywhere. If it is it's buried somewhere at random in the text and I didn't notice it. That can't be obscure information that just isn't available. Idumea47b (talk) 21:05, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is convention in the aircraft project to include specifications from one variant only. The variant chosen is usually the most numerous or representative of the type, discussions to change the variant take place on the article talk pages. The guideline is to prevent an unencyclopedic wall of numbers. Comparison between variants is also discouraged (comparison articles and tables in articles) for the same reason, airliner articles often ignore this. The rationale is that Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia and the information that readers seek is contained in specialist publications/monographs etc. This is a wiki wide concept mostly stemming from WP:NOT, the aircraft project conventions follow the policy, if they don't then someone usually notes it and complains. Nimbus(Cumulusnimbusfloats by)07:47, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
